Thanks for the answer. We are looking forward for the next beta
version!
Regarding your first comment, we have already tried it, but we just
get a graph containing only two points placed in the border, and thus
with null velocity.
Thanks again
Fernando Salazar González
Ingeniero de Caminos, Canales y Puertos
Director de CIMNE-Madrid
Paseo Gral Martínez Campos, 41, 9º Izq.
Madrid 28010.
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Tel. +34 610 234 477
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:40:53 +0100
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1- You can use 'Line graph' to do a graph in a straight segment
between =
two coordinates, without need to explicitly do the double cut.=20
(e.g. selecting two points of your diameter is what you want
not?)
2- You can set the option: Do cuts-Automatically convert cut to set
Then all cuts are automatically converted to sets (as you know
some =
utilities, like do another cut, are available for sets, but no for
cuts)
3- We are adding to post tools to Integrate results along some
meshes, =
without the need to export the graph to excel or other utiltites.
For next beta versions you will be able to integrate some result,
=
like the velocity on a mesh (e.g. the velocity vector on a cutting =
section), or along a graph (e.g. the a velocity component along a =
diameter cut)
Enrique Escolano
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To: =20
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:14 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] Postprocess. Velocity distribution
Good morming
We are studying the flow of water through a pipe (in 3D) with
PFEM. In =
order to evaluate the discharge in a section, we need to know the =
velicity distribution in that section. We have been serching for the
=
rigt tool in GiD and we have got to the procedure I=C2=B4m
describing =
below. We would like to know if there could be an easier way to do
this.
We tried to make a cut in the section to analyze, and then to draw
a =
line diagram following a diameter of this section, but it doesn't
work =
(the message "Sorry, but a line graph could not be created"
appears). =
So, we make as follows.
- Transform the cut to a surface set (Do cuts/Convert cuts to
surface =
sets).
- Cut the new surface set created witha a diameter, so that we get
=
half section (approximately, because it doesn't cut it in a straigth
=
line).
- Draw a border diagram, and extract the information along the =
diameter, discarding the nodes at the outside border of the pipe,
whose =
velocity is zero.
- Work with the data in EXCEL.
This procedure takes some time, but is enough when the velocity =
distribution has radial symmetry. Otherwise we would need to repeat
it =
cutting the setion in different directions.
As I said before, we would like to know if there could be a better
way =
to do this.
In 2D, a line graph can be created directly over the surface layer
of =
water, thus it is easier.
Thanks.
Fernando Salazar Gonz=C3=A1lez=20
Ingeniero de Caminos, Canales y Puertos=20
Director de CIMNE-Madrid=20
Paseo Gral Mart=C3=ADnez Campos, 41, 9=C2=BA Izq.=20
Madrid 28010.=20
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3- We are adding to post tools to =
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For next beta versions you =
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Good morming
We are studying the flow of water through a pipe (in 3D) with
PFEM. =
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We tried to make a cut in the section to analyze, and then to draw
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(the =
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- Transform the cut to a surface set (Do cuts/Convert cuts to =
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- Cut the new surface set created witha a diameter, so that we get
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- Draw a border diagram, and extract the information along the =
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- Work with the data in EXCEL.
This procedure takes some time, but is enough when the =
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As I said before, we would like to know if there could be a better
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In 2D, a line graph can be created directly over the surface layer
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Thanks.
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[GiDlist] Line graph
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[GiDlist] Line graph
How are you creating the line graph?
(I usually use it from the Window-View graphs tool, more useful that from the View results-Graph menu)
Maybe your volume sets are hidden when cutting and you only cutted some surface sets?
Only visible sets are cutted.
Enrique
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From: fsalazar at cimne.upc.edu
To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:48 PM
Subject: [GiDlist] Line graph
Thanks for the answer. We are looking forward for the next beta version!
Regarding your first comment, we have already tried it, but we just get a graph containing only two points placed in the border, and thus with null velocity.
Thanks again
Fernando Salazar González
Ingeniero de Caminos, Canales y Puertos
Director de CIMNE-Madrid
Paseo Gral Martínez Campos, 41, 9º Izq.
Madrid 28010.
Tel. +34 91 319 13 59
Tel. +34 610 234 477
Fax: +34 91 319 13 59
fsalazar at cimne.upc.edu
www.cimne.com
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To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] Postprocess. Velocity distribution
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:40:53 +0100
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Some comments:
1- You can use 'Line graph' to do a graph in a straight segment between =
two coordinates, without need to explicitly do the double cut.=20
(e.g. selecting two points of your diameter is what you want not?)
2- You can set the option: Do cuts-Automatically convert cut to set
Then all cuts are automatically converted to sets (as you know some =
utilities, like do another cut, are available for sets, but no for cuts)
3- We are adding to post tools to Integrate results along some meshes, =
without the need to export the graph to excel or other utiltites.
For next beta versions you will be able to integrate some result, =
like the velocity on a mesh (e.g. the velocity vector on a cutting =
section), or along a graph (e.g. the a velocity component along a =
diameter cut)
Enrique Escolano
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To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu=20
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:14 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] Postprocess. Velocity distribution
Good morming
We are studying the flow of water through a pipe (in 3D) with PFEM. In =
order to evaluate the discharge in a section, we need to know the =
velicity distribution in that section. We have been serching for the =
rigt tool in GiD and we have got to the procedure I=C2=B4m describing =
below. We would like to know if there could be an easier way to do this.
We tried to make a cut in the section to analyze, and then to draw a =
line diagram following a diameter of this section, but it doesn't work =
(the message "Sorry, but a line graph could not be created" appears). =
So, we make as follows.
- Transform the cut to a surface set (Do cuts/Convert cuts to surface =
sets).
- Cut the new surface set created witha a diameter, so that we get =
half section (approximately, because it doesn't cut it in a straigth =
line).
- Draw a border diagram, and extract the information along the =
diameter, discarding the nodes at the outside border of the pipe, whose =
velocity is zero.
- Work with the data in EXCEL.
This procedure takes some time, but is enough when the velocity =
distribution has radial symmetry. Otherwise we would need to repeat it =
cutting the setion in different directions.
As I said before, we would like to know if there could be a better way =
to do this.
In 2D, a line graph can be created directly over the surface layer of =
water, thus it is easier.
Thanks.
Fernando Salazar Gonz=C3=A1lez=20
Ingeniero de Caminos, Canales y Puertos=20
Director de CIMNE-Madrid=20
Paseo Gral Mart=C3=ADnez Campos, 41, 9=C2=BA Izq.=20
Madrid 28010.=20
Tel. +34 91 319 13 59=20
Tel. +34 610 234 477=20
Fax: +34 91 319 13 59=20
fsalazar at cimne.upc.edu=20
[url=http://www.cimne.com%22]http://www.cimne.com"[/url]www.cimne.com=20
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(I usually use it from the Window-View graphs tool, more useful that from the View results-Graph menu)
Maybe your volume sets are hidden when cutting and you only cutted some surface sets?
Only visible sets are cutted.
Enrique
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Subject: [GiDlist] Line graph
Thanks for the answer. We are looking forward for the next beta version!
Regarding your first comment, we have already tried it, but we just get a graph containing only two points placed in the border, and thus with null velocity.
Thanks again
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1. Re: Postprocess. Velocity distribution (Enrique Escolano)
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From: "Enrique Escolano" escolano at cimne.upc.edu
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Subject: Re: [GiDlist] Postprocess. Velocity distribution
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:40:53 +0100
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Some comments:
1- You can use 'Line graph' to do a graph in a straight segment between =
two coordinates, without need to explicitly do the double cut.=20
(e.g. selecting two points of your diameter is what you want not?)
2- You can set the option: Do cuts-Automatically convert cut to set
Then all cuts are automatically converted to sets (as you know some =
utilities, like do another cut, are available for sets, but no for cuts)
3- We are adding to post tools to Integrate results along some meshes, =
without the need to export the graph to excel or other utiltites.
For next beta versions you will be able to integrate some result, =
like the velocity on a mesh (e.g. the velocity vector on a cutting =
section), or along a graph (e.g. the a velocity component along a =
diameter cut)
Enrique Escolano
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To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu=20
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:14 AM
Subject: [GiDlist] Postprocess. Velocity distribution
Good morming
We are studying the flow of water through a pipe (in 3D) with PFEM. In =
order to evaluate the discharge in a section, we need to know the =
velicity distribution in that section. We have been serching for the =
rigt tool in GiD and we have got to the procedure I=C2=B4m describing =
below. We would like to know if there could be an easier way to do this.
We tried to make a cut in the section to analyze, and then to draw a =
line diagram following a diameter of this section, but it doesn't work =
(the message "Sorry, but a line graph could not be created" appears). =
So, we make as follows.
- Transform the cut to a surface set (Do cuts/Convert cuts to surface =
sets).
- Cut the new surface set created witha a diameter, so that we get =
half section (approximately, because it doesn't cut it in a straigth =
line).
- Draw a border diagram, and extract the information along the =
diameter, discarding the nodes at the outside border of the pipe, whose =
velocity is zero.
- Work with the data in EXCEL.
This procedure takes some time, but is enough when the velocity =
distribution has radial symmetry. Otherwise we would need to repeat it =
cutting the setion in different directions.
As I said before, we would like to know if there could be a better way =
to do this.
In 2D, a line graph can be created directly over the surface layer of =
water, thus it is easier.
Thanks.
Fernando Salazar Gonz=C3=A1lez=20
Ingeniero de Caminos, Canales y Puertos=20
Director de CIMNE-Madrid=20
Paseo Gral Mart=C3=ADnez Campos, 41, 9=C2=BA Izq.=20
Madrid 28010.=20
Tel. +34 91 319 13 59=20
Tel. +34 610 234 477=20
Fax: +34 91 319 13 59=20
fsalazar at cimne.upc.edu=20
[url=http://www.cimne.com%22]http://www.cimne.com"[/url]www.cimne.com=20
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P- Work with the data in EXCEL./P
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