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When I open a postprocess data file (.bin file), Info Window shows the following message "Jacobi: 20 rotations are not enough". Could you please help me understand what it means? Also should it cause any potential problem??? I'm using GiDx64, ver 10.0.5.

Thanks,


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Kenji Furui, Ph.D.

ConocoPhillips Company


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3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlapThis message is raised probably when calculating the eigenvalues/eigenvectors of the strain/stress tensor, to draw main components and its vector directions.
(a Jacobi-based algorithm is used to calculate them)

The only problem is that maybe this eigenvectors are not calculated with enougth precision in some element.
Off course this message is not expected to be shown to final users like you in a normal situation,
maybe there is some problem with your results or your mesh (some degenerated element or wrong numerical result values)

Could you send me your example, including results? (directly to escolano at cimne.upc.edu instead the GidList)

Thanks

Enrique Escolano

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When I open a postprocess data file (.bin file), Info Window shows the following message "Jacobi: 20 rotations are not enough". Could you please help me understand what it means? Also should it cause any potential problem??? I'm using GiDx64, ver 10.0.5.

Thanks,



Kenji Furui, Ph.D.

ConocoPhillips Company





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[GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

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Enrique,

Thanks for your prompt response. I'll check my mesh and numerical results again. I've uploaded the postprocess file at the following ftp server:

SERVER NAME: b2bftp.conocophillips.com
LOGIN ACCOUNT: copanon
PASSWORD: P66ypwty
URL: ftp://copanon@b2bftp.conocophillips.com
ftp://copanon@b2bftp.conocophillips.com/
My simulation file is located under "GiD_Enrique" folder.

Regards,

Kenji Furui, Ph.D.
ConocoPhillips Company

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From: gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu [mailto:gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu] On Behalf Of Enrique Escolano
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 9:07 AM
To: gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

This message is raised probably when calculating the eigenvalues/eigenvectors of the strain/stress tensor, to draw main components and its vector directions.
(a Jacobi-based algorithm is used to calculate them)

The only problem is that maybe this eigenvectors are not calculated with enougth precision in some element.
Off course this message is not expected to be shown to final users like you in a normal situation,
maybe there is some problem with your results or your mesh (some degenerated element or wrong numerical result values)

Could you send me your example, including results? (directly to escolano at cimne.upc.edu instead the GidList)

Thanks

Enrique Escolano

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Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

When I open a postprocess data file (.bin file), Info Window shows the following message "Jacobi: 20 rotations are not enough". Could you please help me understand what it means? Also should it cause any potential problem??? I'm using GiDx64, ver 10.0.5.

Thanks,


[cid:898445914 at 13052011-09DE]

Kenji Furui, Ph.D.

ConocoPhillips Company



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[GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

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3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlapI have tried to repeat the problem, but I am unable to do it.

I have used the related 10.0.5 Win x64 version, load your SAND3D.GiD.bin file in postprocess, and shown contour fill and display vectors of main stresses, etc, doing an animation on all time steps, but nothing wrong happened. The related Jacobi: 20 rotations are not enough message was not shown.
What are you exactly doing to have this message? Try to repeat it using this SAND3D.GiD.bin file.
(maybe initially you are reading other kind of files, like ASCII ones, and then GiD is using other internal procedures)

Regards

Enrique
----- Original Message -----
From: Furui, Kenji
To: 'gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu'
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap


Enrique,

Thanks for your prompt response. I'll check my mesh and numerical results again. I've uploaded the postprocess file at the following ftp server:

SERVER NAME: b2bftp.conocophillips.com
LOGIN ACCOUNT: copanon
PASSWORD: P66ypwty
URL: ftp://copanon@b2bftp.conocophillips.com


My simulation file is located under "GiD_Enrique" folder.

Regards,
Kenji Furui, Ph.D.
ConocoPhillips Company




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From: gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu [mailto:gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu] On Behalf Of Enrique Escolano
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 9:07 AM
To: gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap


This message is raised probably when calculating the eigenvalues/eigenvectors of the strain/stress tensor, to draw main components and its vector directions.
(a Jacobi-based algorithm is used to calculate them)

The only problem is that maybe this eigenvectors are not calculated with enougth precision in some element.
Off course this message is not expected to be shown to final users like you in a normal situation,
maybe there is some problem with your results or your mesh (some degenerated element or wrong numerical result values)

Could you send me your example, including results? (directly to escolano at cimne.upc.edu instead the GidList)

Thanks

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: Furui, Kenji
To: 'gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu'
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap


When I open a postprocess data file (.bin file), Info Window shows the following message "Jacobi: 20 rotations are not enough". Could you please help me understand what it means? Also should it cause any potential problem??? I'm using GiDx64, ver 10.0.5.

Thanks,



Kenji Furui, Ph.D.

ConocoPhillips Company





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[GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

Post by Furui, Kenji »

Enrique,

Sorry, It seems like I placed a wrong file in the ftp site. I've just updated the bin file (Size: 115 MB). Could you please try it again? Kenji
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From: gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu [mailto:gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu] On Behalf Of Enrique Escolano
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:43 AM
To: gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

I have tried to repeat the problem, but I am unable to do it.

I have used the related 10.0.5 Win x64 version, load your SAND3D.GiD.bin file in postprocess, and shown contour fill and display vectors of main stresses, etc, doing an animation on all time steps, but nothing wrong happened. The related Jacobi: 20 rotations are not enough message was not shown.
What are you exactly doing to have this message? Try to repeat it using this SAND3D.GiD.bin file.
(maybe initially you are reading other kind of files, like ASCII ones, and then GiD is using other internal procedures)

Regards

Enrique
----- Original Message -----
From: Furui, Kenjimailto:Kenji.Furui at conocophillips.com
To: 'gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu'mailto:'gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu'
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

Enrique,

Thanks for your prompt response. I'll check my mesh and numerical results again. I've uploaded the postprocess file at the following ftp server:

SERVER NAME: b2bftp.conocophillips.com
LOGIN ACCOUNT: copanon
PASSWORD: P66ypwty
URL: ftp://copanon@b2bftp.conocophillips.com
My simulation file is located under "GiD_Enrique" folder.

Regards,

Kenji Furui, Ph.D.
ConocoPhillips Company

________________________________
From: gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu [mailto:gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu] On Behalf Of Enrique Escolano
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 9:07 AM
To: gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

This message is raised probably when calculating the eigenvalues/eigenvectors of the strain/stress tensor, to draw main components and its vector directions.
(a Jacobi-based algorithm is used to calculate them)

The only problem is that maybe this eigenvectors are not calculated with enougth precision in some element.
Off course this message is not expected to be shown to final users like you in a normal situation,
maybe there is some problem with your results or your mesh (some degenerated element or wrong numerical result values)

Could you send me your example, including results? (directly to escolano at cimne.upc.edu instead the GidList)

Thanks

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: Furui, Kenjimailto:Kenji.Furui at conocophillips.com
To: 'gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu'mailto:'gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu'
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

When I open a postprocess data file (.bin file), Info Window shows the following message "Jacobi: 20 rotations are not enough". Could you please help me understand what it means? Also should it cause any potential problem??? I'm using GiDx64, ver 10.0.5.

Thanks,


[cid:976560617 at 13052011-09E5]

Kenji Furui, Ph.D.

ConocoPhillips Company



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[GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

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3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlapDear Kenji,

The problem is that there are some wrong values in the "Stress" result of the element number 1827 in the last time step=30
a few values are 'not a number'.

Then appear after the error message when calculating main stresses.

Check what's happening with the solver for this time step and element.

Enrique

----- Original Message -----
From: Furui, Kenji
To: 'gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu'
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap


Enrique,

Sorry, It seems like I placed a wrong file in the ftp site. I've just updated the bin file (Size: 115 MB). Could you please try it again? Kenji

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From: gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu [mailto:gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu] On Behalf Of Enrique Escolano
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:43 AM
To: gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap


I have tried to repeat the problem, but I am unable to do it.

I have used the related 10.0.5 Win x64 version, load your SAND3D.GiD.bin file in postprocess, and shown contour fill and display vectors of main stresses, etc, doing an animation on all time steps, but nothing wrong happened. The related Jacobi: 20 rotations are not enough message was not shown.
What are you exactly doing to have this message? Try to repeat it using this SAND3D.GiD.bin file.
(maybe initially you are reading other kind of files, like ASCII ones, and then GiD is using other internal procedures)

Regards

Enrique
----- Original Message -----
From: Furui, Kenji
To: 'gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu'
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap


Enrique,

Thanks for your prompt response. I'll check my mesh and numerical results again. I've uploaded the postprocess file at the following ftp server:

SERVER NAME: b2bftp.conocophillips.com
LOGIN ACCOUNT: copanon
PASSWORD: P66ypwty
URL: ftp://copanon@b2bftp.conocophillips.com


My simulation file is located under "GiD_Enrique" folder.

Regards,
Kenji Furui, Ph.D.
ConocoPhillips Company




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From: gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu [mailto:gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu] On Behalf Of Enrique Escolano
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 9:07 AM
To: gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap


This message is raised probably when calculating the eigenvalues/eigenvectors of the strain/stress tensor, to draw main components and its vector directions.
(a Jacobi-based algorithm is used to calculate them)

The only problem is that maybe this eigenvectors are not calculated with enougth precision in some element.
Off course this message is not expected to be shown to final users like you in a normal situation,
maybe there is some problem with your results or your mesh (some degenerated element or wrong numerical result values)

Could you send me your example, including results? (directly to escolano at cimne.upc.edu instead the GidList)

Thanks

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: Furui, Kenji
To: 'gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu'
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap


When I open a postprocess data file (.bin file), Info Window shows the following message "Jacobi: 20 rotations are not enough". Could you please help me understand what it means? Also should it cause any potential problem??? I'm using GiDx64, ver 10.0.5.

Thanks,



Kenji Furui, Ph.D.

ConocoPhillips Company





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[GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

Post by Furui, Kenji »

Thanks a lot, Enrique. This is a big help for me. It looks the nonlinear calculation didn't converge at the step 30 causing this problem.

Regards,

Kenji Furui, Ph.D.
ConocoPhillips Company

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From: gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu [mailto:gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu] On Behalf Of Enrique Escolano
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 8:25 AM
To: gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

Dear Kenji,

The problem is that there are some wrong values in the "Stress" result of the element number 1827 in the last time step=30
a few values are 'not a number'.

Then appear after the error message when calculating main stresses.

Check what's happening with the solver for this time step and element.

Enrique

----- Original Message -----
From: Furui, Kenjimailto:Kenji.Furui at conocophillips.com
To: 'gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu'mailto:'gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu'
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

Enrique,

Sorry, It seems like I placed a wrong file in the ftp site. I've just updated the bin file (Size: 115 MB). Could you please try it again? Kenji
________________________________
From: gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edumailto:gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu [mailto:gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu] On Behalf Of Enrique Escolano
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:43 AM
To: gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edumailto:gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

I have tried to repeat the problem, but I am unable to do it.

I have used the related 10.0.5 Win x64 version, load your SAND3D.GiD.bin file in postprocess, and shown contour fill and display vectors of main stresses, etc, doing an animation on all time steps, but nothing wrong happened. The related Jacobi: 20 rotations are not enough message was not shown.
What are you exactly doing to have this message? Try to repeat it using this SAND3D.GiD.bin file.
(maybe initially you are reading other kind of files, like ASCII ones, and then GiD is using other internal procedures)

Regards

Enrique
----- Original Message -----
From: Furui, Kenjimailto:Kenji.Furui at conocophillips.com
To: 'gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu'mailto:'gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu'
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

Enrique,

Thanks for your prompt response. I'll check my mesh and numerical results again. I've uploaded the postprocess file at the following ftp server:

SERVER NAME: b2bftp.conocophillips.com
LOGIN ACCOUNT: copanon
PASSWORD: P66ypwty
URL: ftp://copanon@b2bftp.conocophillips.com
My simulation file is located under "GiD_Enrique" folder.

Regards,

Kenji Furui, Ph.D.
ConocoPhillips Company

________________________________
From: gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu [mailto:gidlist-bounces at listas.cimne.upc.edu] On Behalf Of Enrique Escolano
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 9:07 AM
To: gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

This message is raised probably when calculating the eigenvalues/eigenvectors of the strain/stress tensor, to draw main components and its vector directions.
(a Jacobi-based algorithm is used to calculate them)

The only problem is that maybe this eigenvectors are not calculated with enougth precision in some element.
Off course this message is not expected to be shown to final users like you in a normal situation,
maybe there is some problem with your results or your mesh (some degenerated element or wrong numerical result values)

Could you send me your example, including results? (directly to escolano at cimne.upc.edu instead the GidList)

Thanks

Enrique Escolano

----- Original Message -----
From: Furui, Kenjimailto:Kenji.Furui at conocophillips.com
To: 'gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu'mailto:'gidlist at listas.cimne.upc.edu'
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] 3D meshing problem with inner surface and overlap

When I open a postprocess data file (.bin file), Info Window shows the following message "Jacobi: 20 rotations are not enough". Could you please help me understand what it means? Also should it cause any potential problem??? I'm using GiDx64, ver 10.0.5.

Thanks,


[cid:296013713 at 16052011-000C]

Kenji Furui, Ph.D.

ConocoPhillips Company



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