[GiDlist] airfoil mesh

Hi Benjamin
in utilities:preferences:meshing: set automatic correct sizes to none & see if this helps this will prevent automatic refinement near small features.
regards
mark


From: gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu [mailto:gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu] On Behalf Of Benjamin Sanderse
Sent: 22 November 2006 14:54
To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] airfoil mesh


Hello,

I did the tutorials and I prescribed the size of the mesh at the boundary of the airfoil. However, that does not give me the expected result: the mesh near the leading and trailing edge is still much finer, and the elements close to the surface look quite bad (in terms of aspect ratio and corner angles).
I tried now to use structured elements instead, but somehow that only works if your surface is the topological equivalent of a rectangle…so that means that I will never be able to create a structured mesh in 2D inbetween an airfoil surface and a boundary?? Sounds strange to me.


Benjamin


On 11/22/06, Abel Coll abelcs at cimne.upc.edu wrote:



Hello Benjamin,



To refine the mesh near any geometrical entity you must assign a prescribed size of the mesh to the entity (Mesh-Unstructured-Assign sizes on…).



I recommend you to do the meshing tutorials available in the web site ( http://www.gidhome.com/support/su05.subst http://www.gidhome.com/support/su05.subst ) to be able to take advantage of all the GiD meshing possibilities.



Regards,



ABEL


Abel Coll Sans

CIMNE - International Center for Numerical Methods in Engineering

Office C2 - C1Building - Campus Nord UPC

Gran Capità s/n, 08034 Barcelona

Tfn: 34 - 93 401 74 03 Fax: 34 - 93 401 65 17

abelcs at cimne.upc.edu mailto:abelcs at cimne.upc.edu



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De: gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu [mailto:gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu] En nombre de Benjamin Sanderse
Enviado el: martes, 21 de noviembre de 2006 23:24
Para: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es
Asunto: [GiDlist] airfoil mesh



Hello all,



I just started some time ago meshing with GiD. I just have a simple airfoil (2D) in a circular domain.

I want GiD to create a C or O-grid for my geometry. I tried several possibilities, but I could not find a way to generate a good airfoil mesh.

My mesh is always very refined at the leading and trailing edge, but misses refinement near the surface and in the wake.

As wing and airfoil meshing must be a common practice I am wondering if anybody could help me with this.

For convenience I attached my geometry as .gid file.



Thank you so much,



Benjamin




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Hi,
Thanks for your answer. Unfortunately it doesn’t really help; in fact the mesh has become worse (very strange gradient in size from leading edge to halfway..).

Benjamin
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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: [GiDlist] airfoil mesh


Hi Benjamin
in utilities:preferences:meshing: set automatic correct sizes to none & see if this helps this will prevent automatic refinement near small features.
regards
mark


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From: gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu [mailto:gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu] On Behalf Of Benjamin Sanderse
Sent: 22 November 2006 14:54
To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] airfoil mesh


Hello,

I did the tutorials and I prescribed the size of the mesh at the boundary of the airfoil. However, that does not give me the expected result: the mesh near the leading and trailing edge is still much finer, and the elements close to the surface look quite bad (in terms of aspect ratio and corner angles).
I tried now to use structured elements instead, but somehow that only works if your surface is the topological equivalent of a rectangle…so that means that I will never be able to create a structured mesh in 2D inbetween an airfoil surface and a boundary?? Sounds strange to me.


Benjamin


On 11/22/06, Abel Coll abelcs at cimne.upc.edu wrote:


Hello Benjamin,



To refine the mesh near any geometrical entity you must assign a prescribed size of the mesh to the entity (Mesh-Unstructured-Assign sizes on.).



I recommend you to do the meshing tutorials available in the web site ( http://www.gidhome.com/support/su05.subst) to be able to take advantage of all the GiD meshing possibilities.



Regards,



ABEL


Abel Coll Sans

CIMNE - International Center for Numerical Methods in Engineering

Office C2 - C1Building - Campus Nord UPC

Gran Capità s/n, 08034 Barcelona

Tfn: 34 - 93 401 74 03 Fax: 34 - 93 401 65 17

abelcs at cimne.upc.edu



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De: gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu [mailto:gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu] En nombre de Benjamin Sanderse
Enviado el: martes, 21 de noviembre de 2006 23:24
Para: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es
Asunto: [GiDlist] airfoil mesh



Hello all,



I just started some time ago meshing with GiD. I just have a simple airfoil (2D) in a circular domain.

I want GiD to create a C or O-grid for my geometry. I tried several possibilities, but I could not find a way to generate a good airfoil mesh.

My mesh is always very refined at the leading and trailing edge, but misses refinement near the surface and in the wake.

As wing and airfoil meshing must be a common practice I am wondering if anybody could help me with this.

For convenience I attached my geometry as .gid file.



Thank you so much,



Benjamin



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Hi,

If you want to create a structured mesh layer around the airfoil,
just copy the lines that define it using the offset function. Then,
apply structured mesh in the new region created and unstructured
mesh to the rest.

Regards,


Compass Ing. y Sistemas Dr. Ramon Ribo
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c/ Tuset, 8 7-2 tel. +34 93 218 19 89
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En Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:17:30 +0100, Benjamin Sanderse
bsanderse at gmail.com escribió:

Hi,
Thanks for your answer. Unfortunately it doesn’t really help; in fact
the mesh has become worse (very strange gradient in size from leading
edge to halfway..).
Benjamin
----- Original Message -----
From: Smith, Mark
To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: [GiDlist] airfoil mesh

Hi Benjamin
in utilities:preferences:meshing: set automatic correct sizes to none
& see if this helps this will prevent automatic refinement near small
features.
regards
mark


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From: gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu
[mailto:gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu] On Behalf Of Benjamin
Sanderse
Sent: 22 November 2006 14:54
To: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu
Subject: Re: [GiDlist] airfoil mesh

Hello,
I did the tutorials and I prescribed the size of the mesh at the
boundary of the airfoil. However, that does not give me the expected
result: the mesh near the leading and trailing edge is still much finer,
and the elements close to the surface look quite bad (in terms of aspect
ratio and corner angles).
I tried now to use structured elements instead, but somehow that only
works if your surface is the topological equivalent of a rectangle…so
that means that I will never be able to create a structured mesh in 2D
inbetween an airfoil surface and a boundary?? Sounds strange to me.
Benjamin
On 11/22/06, Abel Coll abelcs at cimne.upc.edu wrote:

Hello Benjamin,


To refine the mesh near any geometrical entity you must assign a
prescribed size of the mesh to the entity (Mesh-Unstructured-Assign
sizes on.).


I recommend you to do the meshing tutorials available in the web
site ( http://www.gidhome.com/support/su05.subst) to be able to take
advantage of all the GiD meshing possibilities.


Regards,


ABEL


Abel Coll Sans
CIMNE - International Center for Numerical Methods in Engineering
Office C2 - C1Building - Campus Nord UPC
Gran Capità s/n, 08034 Barcelona
Tfn: 34 - 93 401 74 03 Fax: 34 - 93 401 65 17
abelcs at cimne.upc.edu


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De: gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu
[mailto:gidlist-admin at gatxan.cimne.upc.edu] En nombre de Benjamin
Sanderse
Enviado el: martes, 21 de noviembre de 2006 23:24
Para: gidlist at gatxan.cimne.upc.es
Asunto: [GiDlist] airfoil mesh


Hello all,


I just started some time ago meshing with GiD. I just have a simple
airfoil (2D) in a circular domain.
I want GiD to create a C or O-grid for my geometry. I tried several
possibilities, but I could not find a way to generate a good airfoil
mesh.
My mesh is always very refined at the leading and trailing edge, but
misses refinement near the surface and in the wake.
As wing and airfoil meshing must be a common practice I am wondering
if anybody could help me with this.
For convenience I attached my geometry as .gid file.


Thank you so much,


Benjamin


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08006 Barcelona, Spain fax. +34 93 396 97 46